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Thursday, February 17, 2005

What Depression Means To Me

Most essays on this blog will be more light hearted. This is an essay I wrote some months back on depression. -- Liam




"Hi, I'm Will, and I'm a long time depression sufferer."

If my depression were an addiction, I could start meetings in a twelve step program group with these words. But it's not. Depression is not an addiction. Depression is not a choice. Depression isn't "all in my head". Depression is not something I can "just snap out of". Depression is real, it's physical and it can be debilitating.

I first found out that I was a depression sufferer as a child. My parents, realizing that something was wrong with their eldest child, had me evaluated by a child psychologist. Dr. Rosalyn she was called (I couldn't tell you her last name, although I'm pretty sure I knew it once.). At the time, I didn't know what it meant, all I knew was that every week, Mom would pack me into the car and I'd spend time talking with Dr. Rosalyn. I remember the radio station playing in her waiting room ("WVNJ. VN-Joy by day, VN-Jazz by night!"), I remember the games in her office (and being frustrated that she always wanted to talk some BEFORE we were allowed to play any of the games.). The actual name "depression" was never mentioned, at least not within range of my young ears. But clearly none of my friends visited a "Doctor" when they didn’t feel sick, a “Doctor” who never examined them, never gave them a physical and never prescribed any medicine.

In college, I put a name to my condition. In college I put a lot of things together. And in college, I reached the point of fantasizing about my own death. And here's a thing most people who have never been suicidal just don't get: It's not about wanting to die. It's about wanting the pain to stop. I've never WANTED to die. Indeed, my strong self-preservation instinct is what's kept me alive through some pretty horrendous lows. To put it in terms easier for a non-depressive to understand: Most people would never WANT to lose a limb. However, imagine you developed a condition in your ankle which was EXCRUCIATINGLY painful. Imagine the prospect of living with this pain on a more or less constant (or at least frequently recurring) basis. Imagine that the pain relieving drugs of the day simply weren't very effective. Now, can you imagine deciding that living without your leg (but pain free) was a better option than being whole and in agony?

That's what suicide is about. It's a fantasy solution that will end the pain. A way of knowing it's all over and done, never to be faced again. And more, it’s about CONTROL. The fantasies, the suicidal thoughts, in a lot of ways they are about reminding yourself that in some small way, you still have control. If it all gets to be too much, too painful, there is one last, drastic step available. It’s a step you hope never to take, but it makes the rest of the pain just a little bit easier to deal with, knowing that there IS a remedy, however drastic.

The pain of depression comes in various flavors:

o There's the really deep dark depression, which has you in an emotional hole so deep, you don't imagine you'll ever feel happy again. Sometimes your emotions just shut down entirely. And then you're an emotional zombie, unable to feel even the simplest and most straightforward emotions, like love for your spouse or your children or your parents.

o Then there's the more immediately painful variety. If the above version can be thought of as a really intense ache, this version is like a stabbing pain. You find yourself crying, so hard you can't see, so hard you end up with dehydration headaches and an entire box full of tissues empty and used around you.

o There's a variety which just feels overwhelming. There's too much to do, too many things eating at me, I just can't take it all, I can't handle it all, I'm not good enough, I'm going to fail, it's too much. Kind of like a juggler, adding an additional ball to his routine for the first time. He keeps it going, but never feeling entirely in control, and knowing that if ANY MORE balls are added, he's going to lose control and the whole lot will come crashing down around him.

o Finally, there's dysthymia. In some ways, the worst, because it's the most insidious, and also the one you feel the least right to feel. Dysthymia is to the first version I listed as a non-healing paper cut is to a stab wound. The pain is clearly not as intense, but it just eats at you, day in and day out, darkening your day, taking the joy out of life, but never so intense that you feel justified in feeling the way you feel.

Put another way: A major depressive episode is like having the anchor of a cruise ship chained to your ankle and trying to go about your life: You're not going anywhere. Dysthymia is like having a 35 lbs ball on a chain attached to your ankle. You CAN still make it around, but it’s just so much harder. With the anchor, you have an excuse if you fail to get somewhere. With the ball-and-chain, you have less excuse, but it saps your strength, makes every step take 5 times the normal effort. In the end you tire out and give up on things which you COULD get to, because it's just not worth the extra effort. But you always know you still COULD get there, and so you feel guilty letting something that small keep you from what you needed to do. Dysthymia. My own personal more-or-less-constant ball-and-chain companion.

So, we've covered my suicidal thoughts, and we've covered what my depression is like. Did I mention that suicidal thoughts are a regular (if not constant) subtext to my life? Or that even as I write this, a part of me is thinking how much easier it would be to just end my life, and have an end to the pain which is eating at me even now? I'm not writing in the abstract, I'm telling you what I'm experiencing at this moment, what I experience in the majority of my waking moments.

I'll tell you something else: Depression brings rituals to help one cope. In my case, I like to go into a small room (generally a closet) and close the door. It doesn't help much, but in a small way, it feels like I'm locking out the rest of the world. I have enough to deal with right now, so I'm closed for business. Leave me alone world, I'm not up to whatever you have to throw at me today. And the true ironic hell of it is that I'm also mildly claustrophobic, so my little comfort zone is only available to me for comparatively short periods of time before I start feeling trapped and needing to get out, in relatively equal measure to how much I need to keep the door shut and the world at bay. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise, or some days I might never leave the closet.

Let's return to the things I've been told by people who don't understand. "Just cheer up, it's not that bad!" "Oh, stop being so self centered and snap out of it." "If you'd just smile, you'd feel so much better." What all of these people fail to understand is that depression is a disease. It's a disorder. It is not a choice. We don't tell someone confined to a wheelchair by MS to "Just stand up!" The flu isn't treated with "Stop being so self centered, snap out of it!" Migraine headaches don't elicit cries of "It's all in your head!" If I were missing a leg you would never ask me to run a marathon, but by asking me to "just snap out of it", you're asking me essentially the same thing: Ignore what is wrong with me and the things it prevents me from doing, and just do those things anyway as if there were nothing standing in my way.

Depression is real. I live with it. I deal with it. Sometimes I do a better job than others. Some days, the weight around my ankle makes me so tired, I just can't even get out of bed to face the day. But I'll make you a deal: If you'll recognize that my depression is a real disease and has real consequences on my life, I'll promise not to expect you to ignore your migraines, or your MS, or your amputated limb, or your flu or any of the other real, physical ailments which may plague you. If you don't understand depression, if you've never really suffered it, rather than giving advice on a topic you don't get, just thank your lucky stars that this is one demon whose attention you have fortunately avoided.

Hi, I'm Will, and I'm a depression sufferer. Please understand why I can't get out of bed today.

Copyright © 2005 by Liam Johnson. http://www.liamjohnson.net

32 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Liam. In the darkest days when my undiagnosed OSA was worst, I definitely had that ball-and-chain. I went to work, I hid in my office. It seems a fairly popular bit of pop-psychology to say that suicide attempts are "a cry for help". But you had it spot on -- one just wishes that the pain would STOP. (No, I never got near enough to fantasize about actual suicide -- I just wished I would die; then it would be all over.)

Another thing: depression isn't logical. Depression is incapable of listening to reason. All attempts of people to argue one logically out of a depression are just twisted by one's mind into yet another reason to be depressed.

We endure because we must; that's what it boils down to: sheer endurance.

But now we can see the light at the end of the tunnel; treating the OSA will help with the other things too.

Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:45:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty gutsy, your depression story.

I know I've told you this before, but I can't stress it enough. Oh there are very clinical-like writings out there defining or trying to describe suicide, but I've not read one explaining how it "feels" to someone who has this level of depression.

Suicide. It may not be something the average person wants to hear. But they need to know. I admit to feeling a bit alarmed on reading it, but after mulling it over, I learned something from what you wrote. And that's the beauty of your story....to teach us who need the lesson, and to reassure those who share your experience. Liam, I think your wife is right, you need to share this.

Thanks.

Sunday, February 20, 2005 8:54:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liam,

You mentioned having depression as a child.

What was that like? What was your behavior that prompted your folks to take you to a therapist? Can you remember how you felt back then? I once knew a psychiatrist who worked with children and often interpreted their drawings. Were you asked to do things like that? I'm very curious (nosy?).

Friday, February 25, 2005 7:23:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

To be honest, I have very little recollection. I know I was always a loner as a kid, not because I wanted to be, but because I was socially inept (which should surprise no one in hindsight, since I grew up to be a computer programmer, never the most socially adept group).

I remember having a few friendly aquaintences but few if any true friends. As far as I can recall, I've never asked my parents what prompted them to take me to Dr. Rosalyn. Back then, they probably didn't discuss it with me, because we never used the term "depression" or really discussed "my condition". And since... it just hasn't come up.

(Strictly speaking, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't actually take me for depression per se, but rather for social ineptitude or maladjustment or something similar, and only in hindsight do we recognize it as a precursor to my life-long battle with the Demon D.)

However, my Mom does lurk on this blog occasionally, I'll point her to these comments and maybe she'll have some insight or information or recollection further than I have.

Liam.

Saturday, February 26, 2005 5:42:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liam,

I guess I think it interesting you having this so early in life. But then again, since it's an illness, that should not be surprising, right? There are all kinds of childhood illnesses, among children with perfectly normal family lives, so how should that be any different for a child of depression? Just a thought.

I would love to hear from your mother what you were like from her perspective back then. Not as any kind of blame or anything, just her observations of what you were like as a kid and what prompted them to send you to a doctor. You're probably right that it was more a concern over your loneliness. But was it a teacher that might have pointed it out, pointing out that maybe you should get some counseling? And was it only one visit, or were there many visits? Did you have any siblings and did they experience the same thing?

I think your mother's observations would be helpful to know, not just for your sake, but for other parents who might be wondering what to do for their children. I would also be interested in knowing if there was any history of severe and lengthy depression in your family. Also, it would be interesting to know how your mother felt about your adult depression, about the story you wrote, etc. So interesting to me.

Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:44:00 AM

 
Blogger Liam said...

OK, my Mom didn't feel like posting on here, because she wanted to be sure she didn't post anything I didn't want out there.

But essentially what she said is that I was beated up and picked on a fair amount, and I couldn't or wouldn't fight back. I was not particularly atheletic, and more intellectually inclined than most other kids (i.e. I was different). By that I don't necessarily mean more intelligent, but my leanings were definitely more towards reading than towards sports.

I was (she recalls) rather a sensitive child, perhaps crying more often than I should (and thus displaying for the crueler children of the world exactly where my hot buttons were for easy of pressing the next time they wanted to get to me).

And she says I always got along better with adults than other kids. When I went to play at other children's houses, as often as not, I spent more of my time chatting with their parents than playing with the kids themselves.

So it wasn't so much depression they took me in for, it was more hoping that perhaps the child psychologist could help me to better adapt to my surroundings, better interact with my peers, and better fit in in general.

Which of course begs the question: was I depressed even then, which led to these other things, or was it these differences and these difficulties which led to my being depressed.

I can say that there are a number of factors (this being but one set of them) which have led my "internal voice" to be stuck on a repeating loop telling me I'm not good enough, or that even my small failings are unacceptable.

Maybe that helps answer the question a little bit?

Liam.

Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:53:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

I should correct something. I said Mom didn't "feel like" posting here. She didn't feel COMFORTABLE posting here, because she didn't want to say something which might embarass me. It was definitely a "not sure how much to say" issue, not (as I think I mistakenly made it sound) a case of "can't be bothered to".

Liam.

Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:55:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

Wow. Typo hell. "I was beaten up", not "I was beated up".

My apologies.

Liam.

Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:24:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liam,

Always the grammatically-inclined Liam.

Please thank your mother for the wonderful insights. I was surprised at such a quick response, but I thank you for asking her. This speaks to your mother's specialness, for not only noticing her son's behavior but also seeking help for this from professionals or wherever possible. Most parents would have just sent their kids for karate or boxing lessons or something.

So Liam, the more adult-oriented sensitive child, was bullied, huh? I wonder what bullies grow up to be?

Thank you for your terrific description of this. I imagine it was interesting to you too, learning this from your mom.

Monday, February 28, 2005 7:32:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When your depression gets real bad, how do you make the pain go away? Other than that closet, how do you make it go away? Can you? Or does it just go away after awhile, no matter what you do? Does anything other than the closet help?

Monday, February 28, 2005 4:40:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

Nothing makes the pain go away. So far, in my life, there is nothing that consistently makes it go away. What the closet accomplishes for me is to let me forget about everything else.

That's not exactly right, either. I just feel the need to be alone, not bothered (either by people or by events), and somehow being closed up in there helps me to trick myself into feeling like the rest of the world doesn't exist.

I'm not sure I can really describe accurately what it does for me, because it's not REAL, it's just a trick, but I need to be ... small and tucked away.

But by no means does this take the pain away. So far, it's always eventually gone away on it's own. I've had no luck with therapy, I've had no luck with antidepressants, and I'm not willing to try ECT, so I just grit my teeth and cry my way through the worst of it.

I can tell this isn't the answer you were hoping for, but it's the only one I have to give.

Liam.

Monday, February 28, 2005 4:57:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You might not believe it, but your explanations, or attempts to explain, do help, more than you might realize. It just helps to hear it, whatever it is, from someone who has gone through it. Does that make any sense?

Crying seems like such a baby thing to do, but they say it is a physical release as well. But that doesn't help to know. It does help to know that someone else goes through it in their own way, even if different. But I see, it's not so different. I do thank you.

All you "have to give"? ...All that you give is much more than you might guess. But you must have had some inkling you had something to offer, or you wouldn't have posted your depression article on this site. Thanks for doing so.

Monday, February 28, 2005 6:48:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree, this piece on depression is something of a comfort. This is a dark hour for me. I will get out of it, but it is dark now, a hard time. The pain thing, the thoughts people don't like to hear about, are in me now, and I know, like you wrote, that the thoughts just mean I want the pain to go away. I can't will the pain to go away. And I get very upset being told I need to go through the pain in order to get better. No. No. Not so. That does not seem right. Used to be a time when I could sleep, just sleep it all away, or so I thought. Now, during the tough parts, I can't sleep at all. Cruel. They say an illness makes you compassionate. Well, at times like thise, I don't want to be compassionate. I just want the pain to go away. But I know I won't do anything about it. It's just the thought of being without the pain seems so nice. Please forgive my mess here. Thank you for your story.

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:03:00 AM

 
Blogger Liam said...

All I can tell you is that you are not alone. But it's cold comfort and doesn't really help us get out of bed this morning, does it.

Liam.

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:02:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever get panic attacks? Lately, with stress accompanying my down mood, I have found myself feeling as if in a panic, and hyperventilating. Then I have to try and calm down out of it. This seems a little new to me. Oddly, for a moment it kind of helps, in that I am forced to concentrate on my breathing, to try and slow it down. It feels like a kind of fear, being overwhelmed. Haven't tried that closet thing. But maybe I should try it.

Don't respond. It just helps to put the words out there, into space somewhere. Thank you.

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 6:54:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see your words about "being tucked away" in your closet and I recognize that as a feature of Aspergers Syndrome. I wonder if you may have/had that.

Friday, March 04, 2005 12:26:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Will,
Very interesting web site. Your discussion on depression and suicide is similar to how I have felt much of my life. Perhaps not as suicidal, although I definitely have felt that way on a few occassions, and you described it very well. I'm hoping someone we both know will read this excerpt (yours and mine) and understand me a little better as well.

Have you ever tried anti-depressants? I didn't notice any mention of that in your article. After many, many years I finally, reluctantly decided to try them. And it really has made a difference. Guess my ego was too big, but its definitely worth it.

Friday, March 04, 2005 2:35:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

As to Asperger's, no, I don't believe it's at all the same thing. It's not a matter of not dealing with PEOPLE or social matters, it's a matter of feeling overwhelmed by my depression and not really wanting to have to think about any of the things pressing in on me.

Reading through the symptom list, I don't have most of them. I don't think I'd be described (any more) as particularly socially backwards, and I don't see anything particularly interesting in my phrasing (I do enjoy the odd turn of phrase occasionally, but who doesn't. ;-) ).

I'll look into it more, though, just in case, and I do appreciate your taking the time to make the suggestion!

Liam

Friday, March 04, 2005 2:46:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

As to the question of anti-depressants, yes, I have tried many of them. I hesitate to say this, because I know they work wonders for MANY people, and I don't want to give anyone who might be thus helped a reason to not try them. Those of us with depression know that it's already very easy for us (at least while in a depressive episode) to find excuses not to do things. I don't want to be that excuse. "Well see, honey, I don't want to try these because Liam says none of them work."

So let me be very clear: So far, none of them have worked particularly well *FOR ME*. Some have worked, but had side effects which were intollerable. Others worked for a short while, but then the effectiveness wore off. The SSRIs, a boon to many people, have never proven to particularly help me.

Nonetheless, I have tried them, in many combinations as well as alone, and I strongly urge anyone suffering from depression to try them if your doctor feels they might help you. I know far more people who ARE helped by them than I know people like myself, who aren't.

Liam.

Friday, March 04, 2005 2:50:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As to Asperger's syndrome, some may fall gently on that continuium, but I seriously doubt that Liam does. I have known him quite well, and he has none of the taletale signs. Depression looks a lot like other things to the outside, but this warm, friendly, handsome, wonderful man with a great sense of humor simply doesn't have any of the defining characteristics of a person who falls on the Autism Continuium. Well, he is brilliant, but other than that.
Janet

Friday, March 04, 2005 3:27:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

Rob,

Most people at my current job don't know that I suffer from it, either, and of those that do, VERY few know the extent of it or ever really see it.

It's not the kind of thing you want to advertise. However, one of the things Janet is coming to realize, and you probably should as well, is that most depressives (defined egotistically as "me") get very good at "faking it" when in situations where depression isn't appropriate. It's still there, but you grin and bear it... until you get home and unfortunately the people you LIVE with bear the brunt of it.

I know it took Janet a while to get used to the idea that we could be out and about and seemingly having a great time, and then the moment we're alone (in the car, or back at the house, or where-ever) the "faking it" drops, and the depression shows it's true face.

And while it's hard to understand why someone who loves you doesn't make the same effort on your behalf as he/she does for strangers... understand that it takes just about everything I have when I do that. It's not something I can keep up unless I absolutely have to, and so the moment I'm with someone who understands, who gets it, and who lives with me too often for me to always hide it, it comes right back out.

As I told Janet when we first discussed marriage, I'm not easy to live with, and I'm honestly not certain whether I could do it, so she has my respect and admiration for being willing to try.

Liam.

Friday, March 04, 2005 4:32:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

Thanks for the kind words about my writing. It means a lot to me.

As to whether I am safe... I am, but not in a way that means anything to anyone else... I am safe because I have concluded that in (just shy of) 40 years of life, I have been to the very bottom of depression, and I have wanted with all my heart and soul to have it be over and done, and not have to live life any more. And I have fantasized a thousand times about how to do it.

And ultimately, I never have and never could do it. I dream about it as a way of stopping the pain and the stress, but I simply can never bring myself to actually try it. The closest I've ever really come was one time in college, when I got really drunk and tried to cut my wrists. But even while doing so, I knew as I was doing it that there is almost no way to cut deeply enough to bleed to death that way. It's a common misconception, and I knew it. I was doing it that way because I knew it COULDN'T work, and yet I could convince myself I was doing something about my pain.

There are a lot of things in my life (such as elevated cholesterol and a rather more sedentary lifestyle than I should have) that are far more likely to kill me than my suicidal ideation. Plus, I have two wonderful children and two beautiful step children, and even at my worst, I could never cause them the kind of harm it would cause to know that Daddy killed himself.

However, if you would like to continue talking privately, you (and anyone else who wishes) are free to write to me at blog@liamjohnson.net.

Liam

Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:17:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liam, I thought I left a posting, but maybe I do not know how to leave one. Will try again- Maybe it was removed?

You are truly a gifted writer. You may not be all that far behind Dave Barry.
I wrote that your article on depression was a bit concerning, especially your thoughts on suicide.
I also dabble in writing for my own benefit and reflection. It can be highly therapeutic as well as revealing.

I also have some thoughts on suicide, based on a very painful personal perspective.

If interested in private communications, I have some thoughts you may not have considered.
I am in 3rd week of coming off Prozac afterabout 15 years of using it.
I am also piddling with a blog site- have not posted anything yet- not sure how it works.
Tomjax

Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:57:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

May 1, 2005
Liam, Linda (LDuyer) referred me to your essay on depression after reading the post I made on cpaptalk.com tonight. Your piece is very brave and very eloquent.

I reacted badly to someone's suggestion to a person suffering from depression to 'try doing certain activities instead of feeling sorry for yourself.' I bristled at the thought that anyone could think depression was the same thing as feeling sorry for yourself. Upon reading your words here, I now feel somewhat more justified in my response. (On the other hand, as every good depressive does, I still feel guilty for having come on so strongly and offending people..)

Thank you for taking the time to put into words what so many people do not understand. It is such a relief to know I'm not alone!

Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:28:00 PM

 
Blogger Ralph said...

Liam,
Quite a brave post (and unexpected based solely on the pictire of Liam revealed on your blog.)
I don't have depression. It is impossible for me to stay down whatever gets thrown at me. I think its fair to say that I can take no credit for this just as it is fair to say that you do not choose to be depressed.
I do have a wife who takes medication to manage her tilt toward depression. It has been a miracle and is probably the only reason we are still together. I have always regarded her state as controllable and have been critical of her for that reason so the two of us were in a conflict state. (It is incredible the amount of time and effort it takes to learn how to understand other people - or yourself). The medication has brought her back to an operating level of peace.
It is admirable to hear how you have accepted depression as something you have to work with and then managed your life to work around it. And finding a good woman who cares enough for you to take the good and bad has to be a tremendous help. Cheers to you both.

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:00:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a very courageous person and a gifted writer. You speak to "people" and that is a wonderful trait. Your article brought tears to my eyes. I feel for the small child and the grown man and have nothing but admiration for you, your mother and Janet. I suspect that my husband suffers some form of mild depression tho he would never admit it or see a dr for it. I will now not tell him to just snap out of it and smile. I always thought it was helping. I now know how wrong I was.
Thank you so much for opening my eyes.

Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:09:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

As always, thanks so much for leaving comments and letting me know you're reading this essay.

I am very glad to the extent that it helps anyone, and so please feel free to forward ths on to anyone you think needs to read it.

I don't really feel particularly brave for writing it, I just needed Janet to understand before we married what she was getting into, and posting it just felt right, in case it could help someone else.

Oh, and Gilda, I hope you don't feel guilty after having read this. Your husband is very lucky that you care and try to help. Not everything you do for him (nor Janet for me, nor anyone else) will be 100% right, but you love him enough both to try and to recognize when what you're trying may not be helping. That's enough!

Thanks for the kind words!

Liam.

Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:27:00 PM

 
Blogger Dune said...

Thanks Liam,
I can't really describe the mix of feelings about what I am feeling... would take some time to sort them out... nor do I know exactly what I want to write, but I am just going forward. Having read your words, and having gone through depression through much of my younger years, I can say you hit it right on the head for me. I was not only dysthymic (all went undiagnosed) as a kid complete with hideout under the closet to just stay away from anyone -- all the way up to the "juggling act" trying so hard to please everyone else while knowing for sure "I'm not going to make it today or any other day - and won't one of you just take some of this away so I can just return to normalcy PLEASE!" It wasn't until my own suicidal fantasies came around did I even think to get help. Thankfully someone did the right thing... gave me control... real decision making ability when I felt I had no control any time previous... it saved me. Not sure why I even wanted to share any of that in so public a forum, except there is still so much stuff lying about inside me that I never fully dealt with, and have no desire to to be honest, but the words just made me feel all of it all over again, but with a much different perspective.

Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:47:00 AM

 
Blogger Liam said...

Dune,

Thanks so much for stopping by! It's always kind of surprising to find out how closing other people's experiences with depression mirror my own, and flattering that so many feel compelled to comment.

When I wrote the essay originally, some part of me was sure that each person's depression was different, and so what depression meant to and for ME was going to be different from what it meant to and for others. It is sad, but also somehow comforting to know that I'm not alone, even in how I experience depression.

Thanks for stopping by!

Liam.

Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:34:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey liam, wonderful essay! thank you! I found it while going through some old posts on cpaptalk.com. I used to have depression when I was younger, and what you wrote is definintely on the spot! Thank you for putting words to such a difficult state of being, a state that is even so difficult for oneself to understand, let alone explain. I still get it now and then, not sure if it's "technically" depresssion or not, but it's with much less severity than before.

Now I don't want to be a soapbox post, but for me, the only thing that did work to take the edge off the depression, was to pay attention to my food allergies and intolerances. Wheat and gluten are the usual suspects (including breads, pasta, sauces, cookies,...), and sometimes corn as well. Other foods can also cause the same problem (each person is different!). There was a book a long time ago that described case studies of people who went either on the manic spectrum or the depression spectrum (or both) depending only on what they ate. (Can't remember the book for the life of me).

Maybe you've heard all this before, but since the time I was diagnosed (20 years ago - it was still considered quackery and only "true" allergies like peanut anaphylaxia were accepted as being medically relevant), the medical community has actually made some positive gains in this field - and they actually acknowledge food intolerances and insensitivities... and hopefully soon they'll make the link between what we eat and how we feel /how we are. It's generally accepted that something doesn't need to be a true food allergy (with a certain type of immune reaction), to still cause problems. So maybe that can help you in your travels... (let me know if you want more info, i'm echo on the cpap forum)

Thanks for sharing!!

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:12:00 PM

 
Blogger Liam said...

Thank you so much for stopping in! Years after I wrote that essay for my wife, I posted it, and years after I posted it I still hear from people occasionally that they've found it and appreciated it, and I'm so very glad!

I have been through several rounds of allergy testing, both with doctors and through trying "elimination diets" (Janet and I made our selves absolutely SICK of lamb and rice for two weeks, since both are generally hypo-allergenic), and none of them have found any real food triggers to my depression.

But I appreciate the information, it has been a few years, it might make sense to try again.

I actually think the majority of it is my insomnia.

But thanks for stopping in! If nothing else, it warms my heart that people are still enjoying this essay!

Liam.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:43:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello. And Bye.

Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:57:00 PM

 

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